George Mekhail, gay affirming Pastor, wrote a letter to mega church Pastor Judah Smith, (City Church, Seattle) asking for clarification on his ambiguous statement about church inclusion during a sermon. 'Is City Church gay-affirming' George writes Judah Smith. 'Will City Church affirm, baptize and marry gay people?' No answer after a few months. During this episode, George Mekhail highlights the importance of churches being clear on where they stand with gay inclusion, while Matt, Toby and Joey take this episode to try and practice that same level of clarity.

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